Fencing Made Easy
Shaye Koester 00:02
Hey, hey, it’s Shaye Koester and I’m your host for the Casual Cattle Conversations podcast where we connect you to ranchers and beef industry enthusiasts who can help you build a more profitable operation and improve your lifestyle. Are you looking for a community of ranchers who support and challenge you to be more profitable and proactive? Then sign-up for our monthly RancherMind events. RancherMinds are mastermind events for ranchers to come together once a month and find solutions for their own and the industry's challenges. Stay connected by following @cattleconvos on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter and never miss an episode or event update by signing up for our newsletter on casualcattleconversations.com/newsletter. If you get value out of this episode or any episode drop a comment or tip me by using the link in the show notes. With that let’s see who our guest is today and connect you to a new resource to improve your own operation and lifestyle. Hey folks! Thanks for joining me again and if you are new to the show, WELCOME! Today we are going to talk a little about rotational grazing strategies and how they impact your stocking rate BUT the main topic and resource I want to share with you are the fencing trailers that are made by RangeWard that will make the process of putting up fence simpler and easier for you! So today we are visiting with Norm & Neil with RangeWard to talk about how you can implement rotational grazing strategies on your operation with a lower workload for yourself. With that, let’s get on with the interview! It's great to have you on here. But to start off, I mean, I know we've visited a fair amount, but would you share your background in the ranching industry with the rest of the audience
Norm Ward 02:08
A little bit about myself, Shaye. I'm a fourth generation rancher. We've been chasing cows around for quite a while. And my son is actually fifth generation. So it's kind of in the family, I guess. My wife and I and family ran a ranch in southwest Alberta, in what we call the porcupine hills. And that's some fairly rugged ranch land, just about all native grass, and just a fabulous place to manage. While I was at at that place, I also did some volunteer work for Alberta beef producers and Western Stock Growers Association. I still sit on the Board of Governors with Western Stock Growers. And we're actually working on a project right now where we take the environmental services that ranchers produce, and put them into an exchange. So still heavily, heavily involved. And of course, I also manage and own and manage RangeWard, Incorporated, which is really all about portable electric fence.
Shaye Koester 03:20
Awesome. So with that portable electric fence that ties back into your experience with some regenerative grazing practices. And that's what I really kind of want to visit with you about today. So would you talk about when you became involved with some of those regenerative grazing practices?
Norm Ward 03:41
Sure. When I was at university, I took animal science and grazing management. But it wasn't until about 10 years after that, that I had an opportunity to be with Allan Savory for a week. There was a big paradigm shift they're about about day two or three. And it was really great because I had that background from university, but all the holistic things that Alan brought in to the to the equation. So that's kind of where we started. And all back in the early 2000s, I suppose. We decided to get pretty serious about our grazing practices. Of course, holistic management isn't necessarily about grazing. But certainly grazing is one of the tools that you could use for holistic management. We had about about 40 paddocks or fields over spread over about 8000 acres and wanted to get a little more serious. So we developed some portable electric fence, but about that time, we also changed from a cow calf operation. We ran about 500 cows. And then we changed over to a yearling operation for summer. And that was pretty cool. It was it was a fun project. And at the time we needed to do some portable electric fence, there wasn't anything on the market. So it's like, hey, we'll take a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and we'll put it together on a trailer. And that's really where we started. That's probably good 14 years ago now, at the time, with the cows, we were probably doing about 15 to maybe 20,000 pounds of animal per acre per day. And then when we switched over and did some portable electric fans, we were able to get into that, I suppose maybe 50 to 100,000 pounds of animal per acre per day. And that really started to change things. We saw more of everything, like more of above ground grass, more diversity, more wildlife and then when we did some soil work, we were seeing quite a bit in the soil change, some more microbial activity, of course, and that's that was what was giving us our boost was the microbial activity and the water, water retention in soil that started to put everything together so we started off and we had these these yearlings. The first time we we bought about 1000 yearlings, and we thought that was about the right mix. Four years later, we're up to a couple 1000 yearlings and then grazing dry cows in the wintertime as well. And it just really started to come together. And part of it was our electric fence. And of course, part of it is or the big part of it is we were able to control time. So the time the amount of time that we were able to graze in each paddock through the summer.
Shaye Koester 06:45
Well, awesome. That's an awesome story. It's great to hear, you know how you've progressed your operation through that time you spent with Allan Savory. So talking more on the soil health side, would you share the five principles of soil health and what those kind of look like for ranchers?
Norm Ward 07:06
Sure. And this is me know, these are really Gabe Brown's principles and of course, Gabe is pretty close to where you live and he's done a lot of work with just Gabe and then of course with his partners now with Understanding Ag. So I'm just not going to give it back to you again. And I kind of mix a little bit of Gabe Brown and a little bit of Allan Savory, a little bit of Jim Garish, kind of all wrapped in together. And we watched those guys, we participated in a lot of courses with those guys. So it's been really good. But one of the things Gabe talks about is to reduce bare ground. And from a ranchers perspective, it's like wow, I don't farm so I really don't have any bare ground. But that's that's really not correct. I see a lot of operations where the ranch is in a what we call a brittle environment, there's erratic rainfall, high evapo transpiration and not enough grazing or not enough integration of animals. And that's one of Gabe's principles as well as integrate livestock. But if you see a lot of bare ground, and if you when you look out, as you drive by you see a lot of grass, but when you get into the grass, he takes some of that thatch away between the plants. And some of it's really bad. Some of it has a lot of bare ground between plants. So, one of the things that grazing does is help to reduce the bare ground. So there's more plants that come up between the grass species that are there and we did that on our place. We actually did transects. Five years later, we had about 20% more plants. And what's interesting as we had about 20% more of the native plants that were in that grass community, so that was a big win. And of course Gabe talks about living roots all the time. So as we're able to increase the diversity and the number of plants on that ranch land, we had more and more plants there, we had more and more roots in the soil there. Even in the wintertime in our winter, I mean, we in that operation we might have a foot of snow one day and then we might have a Chinook wind, which we're famous for in that part of the world and we may have nothing for a while kind of like a Wyoming type operation. In January, you could go and there'd be some heavy grass cover and you could push that aside and there would still be green shoots in that tuft of grass. So, winter grazing was a big part of what we were doing there as well. So that you know, that's kind of like living roots there all the time. Gabe relates things back to we have a lot of living roots all the time. And really what you're allowing those plants to do is to take sunlight and suck in some carbon dioxide. And we have water retention because of those plants both on top of the soil and in the ground. And that's a big difference from a ranch land that has some old grass tufts, you'll see the grass kind of get a ground a grey, or a dark brown black almost color. And that's really just plants oxidizing literally into the air so so we were able to change some of that. And of course, with with the extra cows that we got the extra steers, we also got a lot of extra wildlife as well. So it was it was starting to change. I thought egotistically, I guess I was a pretty good grass manager when I got out of university and it really wasn't until we started to put all of those components togethernand really start to move forward. The steers when we switched over, that was just a really easy way to accomplish that. So that was one of the tools that we brought in as well. So really, if we go back to Holistic Management, really what we were doing was we were managing the water cycle, we're managing some of the mineral cycle, which today everybody talks about carbon and carbon sequestration in the soil. And we were managing succession. I mean we had a lot of new plants, new growth coming, different plants and of course, the more plants we had, the more sunlight and carbon dioxide, we were able to suck out of the out of the air as well. So all of those things started to come together, we started to have more of a working environment and if you look at some Gabe Browns principles, the five principles and you look a little bit over at Holistic Management, they're really part of the same, the same sort of principles that are going on. So reducing bare ground, having plants there all the time, integrating some some other animals like that could be cattle sheep. In our case, we integrated a lot of elk for the winter, which you know, just sort of came with the territory, but we started to put that environment in a better position.
Shaye Koester 12:45
I think that's something that I really appreciate about looking at, you know, proper grazing strategies is it's not only how is it improving the land for you know, your livestock grazing purposes? But how is it improving the whole ecosystem as a whole? That's what's really neat about it.
Norm Ward 13:04
So yeah, and once we were able to control time, which was really what we were doing with our portable fence, then all those factors came together. And I mentioned before that our cattle organization was working on the environmental services and maybe enter they will send to an exchange. And and you were just saying, Shaye, that all these other services come along, when we have proper grazing And there's a lots of other services that get produced, really cattle, as somebody said, cattle save the planet, I think it's, it's really gonna come back to those animals that are on the landscape, especially in brittle environments. It's it's really about starting to regenerate some of that landscape again.
Shaye Koester 13:56
Well, awesome. So let's talk a little bit about over grazing. So how would you describe what over grazing is?
Norm Ward 14:06
Well, it could be staying in a paddock too long. But really what's going on is that grazing animal is coming back to graze, the same plant before the plant has recovered. So you'll see a situation in your pastures where it's over grazed in one spot, and it may be underutilized in another spot. So that tends to happen. But really, it's about the recovery time. And of course, that's why we started with our portable electric fence was so we could control time. Jim Garish talks about fencing into smaller and smaller increments of time, not smaller increments of acreage, but smaller increments of time. So really, if we're extending our recovery periods, so that the plant has the chance to recover in simpler terms when when the plant gets grazed, they will take some energy from its roots and regrow the canopy. And then once the canopies regrown, it will redo the roots again. So that's that's pretty simplistic. But what you see in overgrazing, is the plant gets grazed, it sacrifices some of its roots to regrow the canopy again. And it does that over and over and over again. And what you do is you get a shrinking root, the roots just gets shorter and shorter and shorter. Then you'll see in Western Canada, southwestern US this year, lots of drought conditions. And then those plants with really short roots, all of a sudden, everybody gets into trouble in a real hurry. So longer roots, and be able to tap into more more moisture. And of course, the longer roots come with all kinds of other benefits, like more fungi and more bacteria. That microbiome in the soil starts to benefit together. So it's really, you know, overgrazing causes a lot of things sometimes you'll see it, for instance, in, say, a genetics or a purebred operation. Guys are just super, super good on genetics. And they might have two or three or four different cattle lines that they're trying to do. And in general terms, you need about 35 to 40 paddocks for the summer. So they get into trouble. Sometimes they might need 40 paddocks for each grazing group. So then maybe three grazing groups, all of a sudden, you're up to like 90 or 120 paddocks. So you see, in a lot of cases, sometimes it's just remote locations, it's hard to move cattle, it's hard to control that, that recovery time. So we see all kinds of places and it's interesting, where ranchers are pretty innovative. And once they get going on, on ranching or in grazing techniques, making smaller, smaller increments of time, they can do some pretty cool, cool things. So it's fun to be part of it, we just have a little piece of the portable electric fence market. That helps him out. But once people make a change, they do this paradigm shift is what we call it, some pretty cool stuff now starts to happen on the environment.
Shaye Koester 17:36
Right? So when we look back at some of those improvements, those cool improvements on the environments all the cool stuff you were talking about, you know, you mentioned that you had about a 20% increase in native grasses. How long does it take for to see some of those improvements? Because it is more work when you're having to move paddocks, right? But how long does it take to see those improvements to kind of at least make it feel like it's worth it? Because it is worth it. The data is there. But what's the timeline on that?
Norm Ward 18:10
Yeah, exactly. And we have people have come to us and maybe the first time they want to start to manage this way. And even if you took one field and divided it in half, that's a significant difference. So even dividing in half, you've lengthend that recovery time for that plant, right off the bat. Then you can get into some portable electric fence for not very much money if you're going to start there, just dividing the field in half. When I talked about our yearling operation, we went from 1000, steers to about 2000 steers that took about four years. And it was still just going straight up for us. So once it gets started it's pretty interesting, you may have smaller increments of improvements. And then maybe you have one of those years where everything comes together. You've got sunshine, you've got lots of water, lots of rainfall, you've got the animals, you've got some of the fence and put in some of the infrastructure. And what you'll see then is some dramatic increases in in production, and you'll go to a whole new level, and then maybe it gets dry again. And it's harder to do that production but you're at a new level, a higher level and you kind of you know, you increase small increases from there again, and then maybe in two or three times in your lifetime, you'll hit that really ideal condition. And then you'll go up to a new level again. So, I mean, we saw that in four years. But we had some of the infrastructure already put in place, our portable electric fence was usually cutting fields in half, or in thirds. Through the summer, we would move probably about 80 times through the summer months that would be May to October. So we're always on the move. We were pretty careful. We were after gain on our steers. So we were probably taking about 25% of the plant material. As we grazed, you know, the first day into a new paddock, maybe we could do maybe two pounds or a little bit more, maybe maybe 2.2 pounds of gain on those steers. If we stayed past day three, or even four, that gain on those steers would come down dramatically, like down to maybe 1.2 1.4 pounds a day. So we were on the move. And we left a lot of material behind. And then we made a deal with our neighbor actually to come with his dry cows for November, December, January. So we're into a dormant season now, we were able to lengthen out our our moves set our time in recovery times now because the plant isn't, isn't growing anymore. We would bring cows back in and even at that we were probably still leaving about half of the material that we needed for next spring of course. Alright, so when we look at this, from a mindset standpoint, what is the most limiting mindset that ranchers can have when it comes to adopting these practices? Yeah, as we we go do a lot of forage association work and a lot of consulting with people I've started a book called 101 reasons I didn't do it. It's not to make fun of everybody. But it's a challenge when you first start, right? You've got electric fence that a lot of people don't like you've got one wire electric fence that people are concerned doesn't keep their cattle in. We've got you go into the store and there's like 1000 different parts, electric parts. It is pretty overwhelming when you first start. But we help a lot of people get started. And it's sometimes it's just that just that one, one paddock that you cut in half. So it's a little bit of a mindset. I said when I took that Allan Savory course, it took me two or three days to get to a position where what Allan calls a paradigm shift, right. So we're leaving more material behind on the grass. People sometimes think that we're leaving too much. There's that electric fence thing they have to get over a little bit. It's like no, that will never keep cattle in but yeah, it does. There's the problems that come with it. Some people have had some older energizers like 15 to 20 years ago, that don't work very well. All energizers put out about nine to 10,000 volts, but it's really the joules of energy that that that you're after. So buy an energizer with that has lots of jewels on it. Like six 6, 18, 40 or Gallagher has one that's 100 joules. Then they talk about 100 miles of fence without. But make sure you get a proper Energizer and make sure the Energizer is grounded properly. We show a lot of people how to test for that. One of our trailers actually comes with an energizer that you can turn the energizer off or on from anywhere on the fence with a little handheld reader. And that's pretty cool because there's a lot of people that just absolutely hate getting shocked. So that's a pretty cool feature. When I move we have a custom grazing at my place for the summer. I guess I'm I've been around long enough I will move my fence hot. And we move about twice a day usually. So there's a big gap there. And then there's the neighbor thing, right there's a little culture we talked about, you know, when my neighbors go by my place when they go for coffee at six in the morning in town, they'll see grass. They'll see grass, trampled and grass eaten and dung and urine everywhere. And they're so used to looking at a monoculture and it's like well, that's just terrible. And when the ranching guys go by, it's like, oh, that's just that just looks fabulous. Right? So there's, there's a little bit of that going on. There's a little bit of maybe cowboy culture. You know, Can I ride my horse with electric fences everywhere? So there's a little bit of that we've got some, some clients that train horses all the time. And they use their horses to go out and move fence. So they've kind of integrated the two things together. So it's, do you want to do it. And if you can think about, you know, going from 1000, steers to 2000 stairs, that's like buying another ranch the same size for the cost of some portable electric fence. So we're all squeezed as ranchers, the margin is low. You know, can we make more money? Can we make the environment richer? And can we put some some money in my pocket book at the same time? And the answer is certainly, certainly can. So money is a big driver as well.
Shaye Koester 25:54
Thank you for going through and explaining, you know, maybe different objections or really just concerns for different styles of operations. Now, is there anything else you'd like to add today? I know Neil is going to talk about RangeWard and the different trailers after you're done, but is there anything else you'd like to add Norm?
Norm Ward 26:16
Yeah, there's, there's lots of really great people out there. You know, I talked a little bit about Gabe and and Jim Garish. But there's Nicole Masters. There's Christine Nichols. Those are both really good soils, people. There's some forage associations here in Canada, where we are across Western Canada. There are some of those down in the US again, join a forage association, and just kind of hang out, see what's going on. There's some really cool soil stations that are moving forward quite a bit. There's lots of stuff on YouTube and go to Shaye's podcast. I mean, there's there's, there's information everywhere, right. And as long as you can run your computer and get onto Google, you're gonna learn something. So the forage associations are a group that are pretty important. When I took my course with Allan Savory, one of the things he really encouraged was to join or make a management club afterwards. And that was really important. We need to you need the support of someone, some other mentor in the community will be there. There's lots of people now that you can go to and and you need to have that support. You need to have somebody to say, you know, Norman, you're a little crazy for doing that. But that's, that's okay. Because this is what we need to move forward on. So those are pretty important.
Shaye Koester 27:47
Alrighty, well, thank you very much for being on the show today. I really appreciate all your input and really sharing your story on the regenerative grazing side and everything you've learned from your mentors in that area.
Norm Ward 28:02
Well, thanks, Shaye. This has been enjoyable and and keep your podcasts going. That's a just a super way to get information out.
Shaye Koester 28:11
And now let's take a few minutes to talk about the actual technology that Norm created. And visit with Neil who will explain how these trailers work and how you can find more information about them. Well, thanks for hopping on today. And to get started. Would you talk about you know who you are? And what's your background in agriculture just so the audience knows a little bit about yourself, Neil?
Neil Thorsteinson 28:40
Well, my name is Neil Thorsteinson. I work with RangeWard electric fence equipment. And my background in agriculture is I basically I don't have a whole bunch. I've always been around it. I've never gotten into it on big scales always been on more of a hobbyist or hobby ranch scale. We've always had some sort of animals around. We're a team roping family. So we've got always got horses around and roping cattle and sometimes sheep. You know, we've got a quarter section that we custom graze here at home and written in many community pastures and agriculture courses in college. That kind of thing. So I guess you wouldn't call me a large scale rancher but I've always just always been in agriculture during different levels throughout my life
Shaye Koester 29:37
Well that's cool and oftentimes, it's important to have varying levels, varying involvement with species and whether it's a hobby or a full time gig. It's awesome. You said you work for RangeWard. Do you want to talk a little bit about what RangeWard is as a company?
Neil Thorsteinson 29:53
Yeah, you betcha. It's essentially what it is is manufacturing company that builds portable solar electric fencing units. That being said, a lot of the reason we're building portable electric fenching units is for the soil health aspect side of it too. So it's not just a sales company or manufacturing company, there's a huge regenerative agricultural background, pushing these trailers along. That's, that's kind of the reason we build trailers. We promote soil health and in doing that, we're just supplying a tool that might make it easier for the producers to do that. Essentially, that's what it all boils down to.
Shaye Koester 30:36
Okay, so talk a little bit about this tool, or this electric fencing unit for those folks that are listening, just the via the audio form and even on the video today, they won't see it directly, but maybe we can throw something up on social media where they can see it, but like, what does that fencing unit do? Like what problems does that help solve for ranchers,
Neil Thorsteinson 30:57
There's a many, many, many tools many reasons or jobs for each one of these machines. But one of the main problems that they would solve is having the ability to throw up a temporary fence when one is needed. Like, for example, the whole kind of the starting base of RangeWard is when years ago in the late 90s. Norm, our owner, the company owner, he ranched down the ground in Alberta and had a big grass fire go through and burned up a whole bunch of their fences. So they're, you know, they're permanent barbed wire fences. So they're in a pickle. So to get you know, to get back on track, or keep his cattle contained, he threw up single strand electric fence. In doing that, he thought, you know, I want to stay away from permanent setting up permanent fences from this point on. So he went looking around to see what was on the market for portable electric fencing units. With no luck, there was nothing out there. So he's very innovative and inventive himself. So he built himself a couple of machines, which consequently our first kind of our flagship machines, what we call our Power Grazers. We put a few of those on his ranch, not only to set up perimeter fences, but also start managing the grazing within his I mean within its fields. So it wasn't just perimeter fencing he was using to manage grazing over time, from that point on neighbors seeing his equipment, his trailers, they wanted one. So he built one and then he built another one and then all of a sudden snowballs and he's building open trailers.
Shaye Koester 32:50
So with these trailers is that just are they designed where they only can put up one strand of wire at a time or is it multiple? What are their fencing capabilities?
Neil Thorsteinson 33:02
Okay, yeah, no, good question. Typically, it's a single strand, or power Graser machine, which is the big like I said, It's our flagship machine was our first. The first one is it was designed to be used on large landscape ranches made in southern Alberta, where Norm was from he built a machine that was adequate, or set up enough fence on his large landscapes. So it's capable of doing 20 or 30 miles of single strand of electric fence. The smaller unit or kind of are the small machine just slightly smaller than the Power Grazer is our Razor Grazer. It also comes complete with everything you need to go electric fencing. I mean both trailers have an energizer solar panel, the 12 volt deep cycle, heavy duty deep cycle battery. The step in pigtail posts and roll of our power grade reflective rope. So they all have the same tools essentially, just different scales. There is a grazer also is set up with the you know, typical single strand application. But it does have the ability to set up a two strand sensor as well. Yeah, and right now we're actually in the design phase. More than the design phase we're in the testing phase of our Power Shepherd which is our sheep machine, which would be a three or four strand. electric fence trailer.
Shaye Koester 34:39
Okay, well that's cool. So you talk about these units do they have to be pulled behind four wheelers side by sides pickups like what does that look like?
Neil Thorsteinson 34:51
Yeah, no, all of the above they have a removable hitch, on the two trailers, the razor razor and the power grazer or I should say three trailers in the power Shepherd. The sheep machine. So you can pull them behind a quad or a side by side or your pickup. The power grazer actually has a couple more features to it as well, it's got four pockets on the back end, where you can just pick it up with a skid steer and forks or your tractor with pallet forks on it and move it around that way, if you choose, it's also got three point hitch pins on it. So if you've got a nice little 40, or 50 horsepower tractor and rough landscape, that's a really good option to, you know, pick it up and pack it around on the back of your tractor rather than I mean, the machine, the power grid is always about 1100 pounds. So if you're, if you're going up and down hills might be safer to carry it with a tractor than perhaps getting pushed down the hill, if you're side by side is too light, that's how we move them around.
Shaye Koester 35:50
Okay, so what's the return on investment with the tool like this?
Neil Thorsteinson 35:57
Well, it depends on the application and the tool that's been purchased, there's kind of two ways of looking at it, you can see a real quick return on investment. If the machine is bought, you know, solely for the purpose of extending your grazing season. We saw a lot of that happen this year. A lot of Western Canada and the northern states went through a drought, which is no secret. So if anything can be done to extend that grazing season and save on seeding fuel, obviously is going to be a quicker return on investment. So I mean, you're kind of a cow herd with, say, 250 cows, if you were to extend your grazing season out a month or six weeks, you might pay for your machine in that first year. In that first season actually, where another form of return on investment might be a little bit slower paced, but it's still a return is you're using that machine to manage your grazing with your goal on increasing your soil health. So obviously increase soil health over time increases the productivity of your land, which increases the stocking rate of that land. So it's possible to increase the animals without increasing the land base. So return nonetheless, it's just a little bit slower than the first one I pointed out.
Shaye Koester 37:23
Okay, say a producer wants to purchase this. Is it available in only Canada? Or is it available in all 50 states as well? What does your area look like?
Neil Thorsteinson 37:36
We manufacture and store equipment in the Red Deer Alberta area. And as well as down at Nanton, Alberta, which is in the south of the province at norm place. So that's two points in Alberta that we hold equipment. We also have farm and ranch dealers throughout Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia. We're also setting up a similar ranch dealer network throughout the states. That's kind of my main target going into 2022. We've got a couple of them on board with us already one in Montana. Just brought one on in North Dakota, possibly South Dakota, and hopefully in Nebraska, here within a few months. No equipment being stored in the States right now. But we certainly do ship to any state. We ship anywhere in North America at this point out of those two bases being Red Deer in that.
Shaye Koester 38:40
Okay, so is this something where you allow producers to do like a trial with it and see if they like it or do demos on them? What does that look like?
Neil Thorsteinson 38:50
Well, a big part of my job is is going around visiting with producers, while producers forage and grazing associations is a big one as well. Conservation groups, I spent a lot of time with them, showing them our trailers, taking the trailers to site, setting it up with them, perhaps setting up a trial period with them, where they use the machine for a month or two months or whatever we decide. So all of that is possible. We're actually doing a couple of trials with colleges here in Alberta, one in the north, at Fairview, Alberta on a I believe they're grazing corn stalk with one of our razor grazers. And another similar trial down at Vermillion, Alberta. Which is they're using a razor grazer for a swath grazing project. So no, we do a lot of a lot of demo days where there might be a group of people just come to look at the machine and then they go home and think about it. And call later if they would like to place an order and Then there's also possibilities where we, we set up some trials every now and then to do that as well.
Shaye Koester 40:06
Where can producers go to find more information about your different trailers that you offer or contact you?
Neil Thorsteinson 40:14
Okay, so we just gone through our website and updated it with lots of new videos, frequently asked questions, testimonies, you can see all about it rangeward.ca. You'll also see our full product line there, as well. So you'll see our power Grazer, our razor grazer, which I've talked a lot about, you'll see another tool called the power arm, which is a very popular tool, which actually it's the back end or the power electric real portion of razor grazer, so we sell them independently as well. People that would be interested in those power arms are producers that already have an electric fence system in place. And they're just looking for a better way to strip graze or cross fence throughout their grazing or throughout their pastures. So you'll see the power arm. And we're just getting on, you'll see under new products as well, our power Shepherd and bison razor grazer. So we've got a lot of equipment there to look at. We also have a Facebook and LinkedIn page can follow us on.
Shaye Koester 41:18
Well, awesome. Thank you for being on the show today. Is there anything else you want to add or share with the audience before we wrap up?
Neil Thorsteinson 41:28
No, not really. I'm just just a really want to put out there that you'll see our contact information on all three platforms or our website, Facebook and LinkedIn. I could talk about this equipment for days and days. I love this stuff. So please give me a call. Whenever you feel like it or questions come up concerns, just general information. Happy to help.
Shaye Koester 41:51
Awesome and we'll make make sure that I get your information in the show notes as well so that they can easily contact you right after listening. But with that, thanks for being on the show today, Neil.
Neil Thorsteinson 42:03
Okay, well thanks a lot for the for the invitation. Shaye. Appreciate it.
Shaye Koester 42:07
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